I recently had the pleasure of visiting my friend Chris Klapheke at Outdoor Photo Gear, in Louisville, Kentucky. After a few hours catching up, we decided to do a quick video to show you some of the gear that I use from OPG.
I display a number of shortlinks for the products we look at as the video progresses, but I’ll list them all after the video too.
Don’t forget to select the HD version under the cog-wheel in the video settings and go full screen, to enjoy the video to the fullest.
Sirui PH-20 Carbon Fiber Gimbal Head: http://mbp.ac/cfgh
Wimberley Gimbal Head: http://mbp.ac/wgh
Custom Brackets CB Gimbal Tripod Head: http://mbp.ac/opgcbgh
Neos Adventurer All Season Overshoes: http://mbp.ac/noa
Aquatech Sensory Gloves: http://mbp.ac/opgasg
Guragear Kiboko 30L Bag: http://mbp.ac/opgkib
Guragear Kiboko 22L+: http://mbp.ac/kib22
Rick Sammon On-Location Lighting Kit: http://mbp.ac/rsollk
Custom SLR C-Loop Camera Strap Mount Solution: http://mbp.ac/cloop
Gepe Cardsafe Extreme: http://mbp.ac/cse
And to finish, here’s a quick photo of me and Chris having a bit of fun at Outdoor Photo Gear!
Martin: I’m here today with Chris, at Outdoor Photo Gear. Chris and I
have been friends for a long time. We’ve been working together
at least before you started this company.
Chris: That’s correct.
Martin: I’m currently in the US. I’m here at the moment visiting family
in Fairfield, Ohio. When I found out that it was only a 2-hour
drive down to Kentucky . . . I pronounced it Louisville to a guy
in the US. He said, “No. If you say Louisville over there,
they’ll call you gay and shoot you. It’s Louisville.”
Chris: Louisville. Its 2 syllables or so. You can’t swallow it when
you say it.
Martin: I’m down in Louisville, in Kentucky and having a great morning
just talking with Chris and catching up. You can see that we’re
in the Outdoor Photo Gear shopfront here now. Tell us a little
bit about it. It’s really an online presence.
Chris: We’re mainly online; that’s probably about 90% of our business.
Our local business keeps expanding all of the time. We’ve been a
small facility now, mainly setup for packing and shipping. About
1/3 our stuff goes overseas, actually, including stuff to you.
Martin: Yeah. I’ve recommend Outdoor Photo Gear to a number of people.
They’ve always been really impressed with the fact that you’ll
ship anywhere and there’s always someone on the end of the
phone. I’ve enjoyed working with you over the last . . . what
will it be now, 3 years?
Chris: 3 years or so. We both got started-up at the same time and we
kept corresponding. I remember one night, I got on Skype; you’re
in Tokyo, I’m here. We both were amazed that you could talk
halfway across the world through our computers. Of course, now
it’s a commonplace, but back then it seemed like a novelty.
Martin: Yeah, it was more cool. You would think, “Wow. This is
Chris: Then your podcast started up. Big fan of that, always have
Chris: We started about the same time. This facility here’s, again,
mainly used for shipping. We do have more and more people coming
in, so we’re actually going to expand and get a bigger facility.
That’s going to include some classroom space for our workshops.
Let’s get you back for one of those.
Martin: I’m going to be back. I’ll be back for that. That’s great
Chris: A lot of product here. We do keep all of the products here,
that we have on our website. We don’t put them in a warehouse
for fulfillment, or whatever. We actually have them here, pick
them, and ship them here. We get intimately familiar with all
the product. A lot of people call us for help: How much does
this weigh? Can this fit in this? We have that right here where
we can do that. We’re pretty proud of that.
Martin: We’re going to go ahead and take a look at a few things. This
morning, literally, I walked in and I’d seen this carbon fiber
Gimbal head on your website. This was one thing that I was
thinking, “I hope they’ve got that because I’d love to take a
look.” It’s light as anything. I’m seriously thinking about
picking one of these up. It is great that you’ve actually got
the stuff in the warehouse so that people can . . .
Chris: We do, yeah.
Martin: Anybody’s welcome to just come in. If you’re in the area, just
come and walk in and have a look.
Chris: Sure. It’s not a big retail front. We’re actually in an
industrial part. We’ve got a whole salesfloor room-type thing.
Chris: People like it. The neighbor’s dog runs up and down the hall.
Martin: I’ve seen it.
Chris: Employees are very casual. No glass counters to hide behind,
like in the normal camera store. This head right here, there
really hasn’t been a carbon fiber Gimbal head. Gimbal heads are
pretty heavy. Of course when I first got this, a little bit
suspect; will it hold? Carbon fiber’s not molded. I brought my
Nikon 600 in, put it on there and bent it like crazy, and it was
solid as a rock, and it’s very light. The company is actually
hard to pronounce, just like my last name. It’s called Sirui.
It’s spelled S-I-R-U-I but for some reason they say it’s Sirui.
Chris: They make a lot of ball heads. This is their first Gimbel head.
If it’s anything like all of the rest of their stuff, it’s
highly-manufactured very well and will hold up very well. We saw
a lot of their other pieces, and the price is really good for
what you get.
Martin: Yeah. It’s a nice piece of kit. I’m seriously picking
considering picking one of these up.
Chris: Yeah, I know. That’s the first thing you went for when you
walked in the door.
Chris: People walk in, and even like yourself being across the world,
we start to have a conversation, and then you drift off and go
look at this and look at that. It’s like a big toy store.
Martin: It is. It’s amazing. I feel like a kid in the candy store at
the moment. This is the one that I was thinking of buying, and I
still am. This is great because you can pull it all down. Custom
Chris: It can make into a side-mount Gimbal head, a regular Gimbal
head. It can make into where it would attach to your ball head.
It’s like a Swiss Army knife.
Martin: Yeah. I’m still considering this, as well.
Chris: It’s a heavy piece, but it’s built to hold heavy lenses.
Martin: Yeah. I use the original Wimberly at the moment. I’m still
happy with it. It’s rigid, but . . .
Chris: The 101, the first model with the knob on top.
Martin: The very first one, yeah.
Chris: Of course, they have a new one. It’s not new now, but big
difference; lighter, stronger, and sleeker.
Martin: Is that this?
Chris: Yes, it is.
Martin: There we go. Yeah, this is the one I would love to have
upgraded. This is still not heavy. It’s a lot lighter than the
one that I use still. These things, they’re not cheap. It’s one
of those things that you don’t replace unless you really have
Chris: This is a good upgrade over the other one, especially where the
knobs are. Of course, Wimberly is the standard in the Gimbel
head business. It’s almost like Kleenex; people call it Gimbel
or Wimberly head. They’re a great company, great guys. That is
the standard so you can’t go wrong with it.
Martin: I love the action on them, and they lock down. This thing here,
I just tried it and it locks. I didn’t give it much of a twist.
Chris: It does lock.
Martin: It locks really, really solidly.
Chris: You old one had the knob up here.
Chris: This is how they have it. They’re big when you’ve got gloves
on. I know it’s cold where you do your workshops. We were just
talking about that. That helps from that.
Martin: I like the fact this is here as well, because I often put my
elbow in there . . .
Chris: Do you? For stabilization?
Martin: . . . and put it over the top of the long lens to stop it
shuttering. I use a really right stuff lens, a bracket that goes
Chris: I’ve seen that.
Martin: That stops the shutter to an amount. If you’re at a certain . .
. there’s a dead zone, I’m sure you know. I think I’ve found it
between 1/125 or 1/50 of a second or so. If you go low enough,
then you get shutter.
Chris: You have to have good technique.
Martin: The only way you can get rid of it is by hooking this up under
your arm and then over the top of the lens, and you shoot
through there. That will really help to lock things down. Having
this ability is good.
Chris: In bird photography, which is what I do, mainly, we always try
to . . . there’s a rule-of-thumb that you wanted to keep your
shutter speed the inverse of your focal link. If you have a 500,
you really want to keep it 1/500 or faster, but there are times
you just can’t do that. We can do it . . .
Martin: Right. The times that I use it is really when it’s almost dark,
or either just before dawn or just after the sun’s gone down.
Obviously, yeah, you’re going to want to try and get faster
shutter speeds when you can, but there are times when you really
have to go lower.
Chris: You have to. We’re lucky now, though, even compared to 3 years
Martin: Yeah, the ISOs are . . .
Chris: Yeah. The camera performances are just off the charts. We think
they’re off the charts now; no telling what they’re going to do
in 5 years.
Martin: Yeah. I think there was a guy, Morton Goldberg, a guy who’s
really active in my forum and community. He mentioned a few
months ago, that he thinks it’s time we rethought the ISO
standard because the numbers are getting ridiculous. Maybe just
knock off a 0 or something like that. Maybe it is time to
rethink that. It’s certainly getting less necessary to do that
sort of thing.
Chris: It is. A lot of people are using auto-ISO now, which we never
would have considered.
Martin: I’ve started using that.
Chris: Have you? I have not done that yet.
Martin: For a lot of my wildlife, I still use manual mode. It doesn’t
really mean much to me to just try that. Because the auto-ISO .
. . literally, I’ve gone backwards from auto-ISO. Because high
ISOs are getting so usable now, I’ve started to use that more.
That’s actually forcing me in towns, street photography, things
like that. I’m using aperture priority for the first time in
probably 10 years because I can now rely on the 3; the ISO as
well as the shutter speed. They’ve got those auto settings where
you . . .
Chris: You can get the minimum.
Martin: Yeah. Basically what it does is keeps the minimum, as you were
saying. If you were using a 50-millimeter lens, your minimum
shutter speed will be 1/50 of a second, and then it starts to
crank up the ISO.
Chris: Yeah. I need to experiment with that mode. Unlike yourself, and
I was explaining to Clay, our new marketing fellow, that when
you’re shooting birds in flight, you really . . . yeah, he’s
over there with the other camera. You really want to use manual
because your background’s going to change, and it will drive
your camera’s metering system crazy.
Chris: He’s a fashion guy, so we try to teach him about wildlife and
Martin: I think working at Outdoor Photo Gear now, he’s going to come
across a lot of people that do that sort of work.
Chris: Right. I told him I did take a picture of a person about 5
years ago. Walked in front of a bird, I think.
Martin: Typical of you.
Chris: What else? Actually what you’re doing, is now you’re going to
show us your favorites, stuff you’ve got from us, and what to
use in your workshops, right?
Martin: I did a video on this as well, a few years ago; it would have
1Ω years ago now. I use these [inaudible: 09:55] overshoes
Chris: That’s that model of overshoe.
Martin: Yeah. I have some [inaudible: 10:01] waders from you, as well.
These were incredibly useful down in Antarctica, because I would
put the . . . I’d get my normal trousers inside here, and then
I’d put the waterproofs over the top. Basically, you make a
valve where the water won’t go back up.
Chris: I see.
Martin: You can literally walk into the sea past your knees, if you’ve
got waterproof trousers on.
Chris: You put them over your boots too, right?
Martin: Yeah. I’ve got the pair. You have a really good scale table on
the side that shows you the sizes. I wear these big, huge Yeti
boots. I think they’re from Baffin. I don’t know if it’s
pronounced in a French way, but they’re Baffin boots, and
they’re huge. I bought a pair of these, bigger than these. They
go over the top, no problem. You can walk around in them all
day. They are light as a feather.
Chris: They really are. That’s a good thing, you can pack them.
Martin: Right. They don’t take a lot of . . .
Chris: Without adding any a lot of weight.
Martin: Yeah, don’t take a lot of weight.
Chris: I wrote an article about them called, ‘These Aren’t Your
Mother’s Rubber Galoshes Anymore’. They’re a totally different
thing. Speaking of Snow Monkeys; remember we did a caption
contest with the Snow Monkeys in the pool.
Chris: The winner got some [inaudible: 11:11].
Martin: That was what they won?
Chris: We’ll have to do that again this year.
Martin: Yeah, let’s do it again.
Chris: We’ll get different Snow Monkey shot. I think you’ve got a few,
Martin: I’ve got a few.
Martin: Yeah, these are excellent. I would totally endorse these.
Chris: We sell a lot of those. People have a big trip coming up, and
like you say, Antarctica or whatever; that’s what they’re
Martin: These are my favorite.
Chris: And it goes along with these.
Martin: Yeah. I used these in [inaudible: 11:33]. They’re not
incredibly warm, but normally when you photograph and get all
excited, your hands get warm anyway. These are the AquaTech . .
. what do they call them?
Chris: Sensory gloves.
Martin: Sensory gloves. They’re called sensory because they have these
little holes, and I imagine that you can . . . I’m going to put
one of these on and show you. They have these holes.
Chris: I’m glad I picked up your size.
Martin: Thank you. They have these holes so you can actually poke your
index finger and thumb through, so that you can do your
intricate stuff, like changing cards and things. They’re
actually thin enough where you can do quite a lot. You can
operate your camera with them on. I’ve recommend these to a lot
of people, and they’ve all been happy with them. I’ve never
heard anyone complain.
Chris: A big marketing feature now that really gave them another boost
in sales is you can use your iPhone.
Martin: Really? Cool.
Chris: Yeah. You can then use it without taking off your gloves.
Martin: I see. Yeah that’s cool. These are amazing little, not real
little. The one thing that I would say is that because they’re
not really built for extreme cold, if you are going to be in
extreme cold and you feel as though you might be standing
around. When you’re doing your photography, you generally warm
up. If you’re just going to be standing around waiting for
something to happen, you might want to take a pair of additional
mittens to go over the top. That’s in really extreme cold. I’ve
actually stopped taking my mittens on trips because I get
hunter’s response and my hands get really, really warm.
Chris: These are probably good down to certainly in the 30′s, the
20′s, or maybe down to 0 or so.
Martin: The only gloves I wore. I did the calculation earlier. -35
Centigrade, which is minus -30 Fahrenheit.
Chris: You’re saying it’s not too cold at -30.
Martin: I still use just these gloves. That was because I was
photographing. I think I’ve got some Nordic gene or something,
where when I’m actually doing the photography my hands get warm;
a lot warmer than the people that are with me. I’m kind of okay.
Don’t use this as a standard.
Chris: You said you it was -30, and you’re singing about how warm it
is, and now your participants are looking at you like you’ve
Martin: The rest of the group were looking across at me like ‘what?’
These are great gloves. I’ll tell you what; I’m going to move
these across here a little bit more, because what I want to do
as well, probably out of frame at the moment. If we move these
across, what I wanted to also show you is this is actually the
Gura Gear Kiboko bag. This is mine; this is what I came over to
Japan with. Fits in the overhead lockers in the planes.
Chris: Internationals. It does fit international.
Martin: I didn’t have any problem with it on the domestic flights
either. Really, the bag itself is so light that it allows me to
put a whole load gear in. You can put a 600-millimeter F4, which
I’ve done. I usually on this side, I usually carry my 300-
millimeter in the bottom, and then the 70-200 in the top.
Because I didn’t need the 300-millimeter on this trip, I’ve
reconfigured it. I’ve got the 70-200 here, a dead cat in this
side, for the mic. We’re not outside at the moment, we don’t
need that. A few other things; lenses.
Chris: You might want to explain what a dead cat is.
Martin: Yeah. It’s to stop the wind on the mic that’s on top of the
camera at the moment. If you’ve got a lot of wind, these things
will basically just cut out the wind.
Chris: No cats are harmed in the making.
Martin: Yeah. No cats are harmed. We usually just use rats. This is the
other side. You can see, currently, I’ve got . . . the 1 DX
that’s sitting here recording, is actually, usually here. I’ve
got a few things down here. I’ve got a lot of room in this at
the moment, but you can see I’ve got 2 pro cameras: The 5D
[inaudible: 15:27] here. I usually leave a little space here to
put the straps in. 24-70, 50-millimeter 4.2, 14-millimeter, and
we’ve got the 16-35 on the camera. If fits a huge amount of gear
in here. At the moment, because the bag itself is so light . . .
Chris: I think it’s got 4 pounds, 3Ω.
Martin: Yeah. This is under 15K, which is the limit for a lot of the
flights that I’m on. Some for the flights are 7K. At those
points, the gear will be going into the pockets in my vest,
because if I really need to get below 15K, I can by just
offloading loads of stuff, and they don’t weigh your clothing.
You can see it’s just a really well-made bag. The back here . .
. I’ve spoken about this on my podcast in the past, but all of
the straps will go inside. You can tuck them away here. Really,
very light excellent bag. Another thing that I wanted to just
quickly show you before we move on from the bag is that over the
last year or so, Gura Gear have also released the 22-liter.
Chris: 22L, yeah. This was in response to a lot of people in our
Chris: It’s a little shorter. You can put a 500 in it not a 600.
Martin: Where does the laptop go?
Chris: It’s back here.
Martin: In the back? Cool.
Chris: Yeah, right here.
Martin: I didn’t realize that.
Chris: The zipper compartment is here. It’s in between the padded back
ventilation and your camera gear.
Martin: I See.
Chris: It adds about 1 inch of thickness on it. It’s a little bit
shorter to keep the weight down. It does carry a laptop. That’s
in response to some customer input. Gura Gear is a great
company. They modify their bags with a lot of input from
customers. Good group of guys.
Martin: Did you say you could a 500-millimeter in this?
Martin: In one side? That’s great. If you needed one side dedicated to
a 500, you could have your bodies in a 70-250 in the other or
something. Great bags, very light. I swear by these things.
Chris: Best-selling backpacks and real ergonomic. Like I say, great
company. They’ll have a lot of new stuff coming out, as far as
accessories that, they’re going to announce in [inaudible:
17:42], which is September 15th.
Martin: Okay. And you’re going?
Chris: I’ll be fortunate enough to be there. I’ll actually be in the
Gura Gear booth and the LensCoat booth. They’ve got a booth
they’re going to share together. Allows me to get over there and
find some new, cool stuff to sell.
Martin: Yeah. Best of luck with that.
Chris: Thank you.
Martin: I wish I was going. If anyone is going, then make sure you go
over and said high to Chris, because he’s a really nice guy.
Martin: Have you got anything you’d like to show us as well, Chris?
We’ve got loads of stuff on the walls. You’ve got Rick Sammons
Chris: Yeah. We were talking about Rick earlier. Westcott makes this,
and they named it after Rick. I don’t know if he’s getting any
license fee or not, but he did ask me to make sure and put it in
a good place where people would see it.
Martin: Can I take this out? I’ve heard about this stuff.
Chris: You’ve got all kinds of stuff in here. It’s still wrapped up.
Martin: I have the big 5-in-1.
Chris: Yeah. This is kind of the same stuff. Although you have got a
micro [inaudible: 19:37] that goes over your . . . get it in
front of my face here . . . over your speed like, diffuser, and
a . . .
Martin: I think this a silver and gold reflector.
Chris: [inaudible: 18:45] reflector. All comes in a little kit. Of
course, the kit prices are cheaper than buying them separately.
Westcott makes some great stuff. We carry a lot of stuff by
them, but this is the only piece that’s got Ricks name on it.
Martin: Nice. I think it was Rick that I heard it from, but I went for
the larger one. If you buy this today, you will get one that’s
packaged up with Martin and Chris’s fingerprints all over them.
Chris: There you go.
Martin: That’s great. I see you have a fair amount of lighting stuff,
Chris: We do.
Martin: Really, the majority of your stuff is outdoor.
Chris: It is. Our local crowds really use a lot of lighting stuff,
because in Louisville, Kentucky, there’s not a lot of 500 and
600 lenses walking around. As people started coming in, these
are folks that shoot senior portraits, a lot of stuff on-the-go.
We picked up lighting stuff; lighting stuff, I mainly mean speed
light stuff because it’s still portable, still mobile. You’re
finding a lot of photographers ditching big heavy studio stuff
and doing things they can carry around on location.
The flash modifiers and light modifiers we have are all in mind
with mobile. It still fits with our outdoor theme. A lot of our
stuff is wildlife and nature-oriented, but we are branching out
into what I’d say what we call mobile-oriented for that. I’m
trying to think of other stuff.
We got light modifiers. We did pick up an interesting little
company called Custom SLR. Like Black Rapid, a lot of people
were putting their cameras over their shoulders. Some people
have a camera strap they don’t want to get rid of. Custom SLR
makes a little . . . we’ll grab it right here. This is a little
piece that screws onto the tripod mount of your camera. It
swivels, so you can hook any camera strap up to it . . .
Martin: I see.
Chris: . . . and carry it the same way. It’s less expensive than
buying a full shoulder camera strap. These things have been hot.
Martin: Nice. You often find . . .
Chris: Again we find little, smaller companies. When we go to
tradeshows, we go right past the Cannon and Nikon. I like to see
what’s coming as much as anybody, but business-wise I’m going
back in the back to find smaller companies that are either just
getting started or just a few people run them but they got to
need product. That’s the type of stuff that makes us a little
more unique as a website.
Martin: You certainly stock a lot of the great . . . I’ve found so many
good little additions to my kit from you. There was one other
thing that I see over on the wall there. I’m going to go and
grab. I often tell people . . .
Chris: You’ve been grabbing all kinds of things off the wall. You’ve
had a great time here.
Martin: I have; apart from just meeting you in-person for the first
time. I also use these, the CardSafe Extremes. I actually, a
number of times have dropped my card case. What I do is I’ll . .
. especially a few years ago when cards were smaller. You’d get
the end of a card and I’d try and switch it out, and then what
would happen a bird would fly past or something, and I’d go
“Oh.” I’d take the pouch, put it under my arm, do a few shots,
and then forget I got it under my arm. That would drop down.
I’ve done that on a beach before. Obviously, beaches are not the
best places to have cards and stuff . . . although they are
pretty robust. Since then, I’ve thought, “You know what; I often
spend time in boats down in Antarctica and things like that.” I
searched this out. Basically you can fit 4 cards in and you can
actually fit the SD memory cards in the back there. You could
actually fit up to 8 cards, if you had 4 CF or SDs.
Once it’s closed, it’s waterproof. If you were to drop it into
the sea it floats, so you could go back and scoop it back out.
It’s slightly bulky, but for the amount of cards you can get in
there and to protect your valuable images, this is the only card
case I currently use. Even though bags often come with card
cases, they generally just get stowed away somewhere, and this
is the one that I use. I wanted to show you.
Chris: Extreme, that’s what they call it, The Extreme.
Martin: Yeah. CardSafe Extreme.
Chris: I don’t know if you can hear the phones ringing out here or
not. I don’t know if it’s going to . . .
Martin: I could hear it; but this is a business. We’re just going to go
Chris: The young lady running the place, Kim, she’s answering all the
Chris: We know who runs this place.
Martin: Chris, I’m going to put you on the spot. We can edit this out
if we need to. I haven’t mentioned this before we started this,
but do you have perhaps, maybe a code or something the users
could use until a certain date?
Chris: Sure. Let’s do it. I can make it up on-the-fly.
Martin: Go on.
Chris: We just put it in the computer and it works. How about call it
Chris: Let’s say just 10% off on anything. In the continental US, we
ship free. This way, you can get 10 % off on anything in the
store, including expensive tripods and bags. We can say that
code is Martin10 so they can remember the 10. Is that okay if we
use your name?
Martin: That’s fine. We can use MB . . .
Chris: We can’t spell my name.
Martin: I can’t even pronounce it. What is it again, Clepic?
Chris: [inaudible: 24:00]
Martin: I’m [inaudible: 24:01]
Chris: Martin or MBP? You like Martin Bailey Photography?
Martin: I’ll tell you what; if you can put it in afterwards, let’s put
Chris: I’ll put it in now. Not right now.
Martin: By the time this goes live it can be MBP10.
Chris: Actually, Kim will put it in.
Martin: We’ll use that.
Chris: How long do you want it to run for? When’s this . . .
Martin: That’s up to you.
Chris: . . . episode going to air?
Martin: I’ll put this out in maybe 2 or 3 days.
Chris: Let’s run it to the end of September.
Martin: That will be great.
Chris: You can put it on your sight too, if you want.
Martin: Wow. That’s very generous of you, Chris. Thank you very much.
Chris: It’s great to see you.
Martin: It’s been great meeting you.
Chris: I’m really glad you came in.
Martin: Me too.
Chris: All the way from Japan to here.
Martin: Yeah. It was all the way from sunny Fairfield, Ohio, this
Chris: That’s okay.
Martin: To get over here. Really, one of the main reasons why I wanted
to come down and see you today was just because, you’ve not only
have you been a great friend over the years, but I knew that you
got all of this gear. Photographers love to look at gear.
Chris: Yeah. Where are you heading next, though?
Martin: After this, I’m going to New York. I’m going to go to Luminous
2012 first, and then after that, I’m going back over to San
Francisco for the first US Pixel 2 Pigment workshop, which is
the main reason I’m here; that’s on the 15th and 16th of
September. Then the following weekend, 22nd or 23rd, I think I’m
doing the Pixels 2 Pigment New York. Then the weekend after
that, I’m in Toronto. Then I go to London. The 6th or 7th of
October is the Pixels 2 Pigment London.
Chris: Wow. You’ve got a busy schedule.
Martin: Yeah, but then I’m going to have 10 days off and spend some
time with family in the UK, and practice my Ringo Star accent.
Chris thinks I sound like Ringo Star.
Chris: The funny thing is for the next couple of weeks, you’ll be in
the US and I’ll be overseas.
Chris: Switching roles.
Martin: I’m glad I caught you at the right time. Really, it’s been
excelling meeting you in person.
Chris: Thank you. I appreciate you coming by.
Martin: Not at all. Thank you. See ya, folks.
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